Teeaboo Reacts – End of Evangelion – ? Tumbling Down ? Tumbling Down ? Tumbling Down ?
Teeaboo Reacts – End of Evangelion – ? Tumbling Down ? Tumbling Down ? Tumbling Down ?
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Midpoint [End of Thanatos, beginning of 26′] – 1:01:37
Discussion Start – 1:41:34
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March 20, 2019 @ 3:33 pm
Is this show is really worth it ? Because i know its good but i can’t get in, the main is not really cool and his father pisse me off with the same voice of one of my favorite carachter ?
March 20, 2019 @ 3:35 pm
This was easily the best reaction to NGE & EoE I’ve seen. THANK YOU. The raw reactions were very entertaining and the post commentary dissected it really well without going to far and overthinking certain things, it was always well-founded. I know that’s a really broad statement, there were tons of great individual things you did but I can’t think of them all at once.
I do remember thinking that you could’ve talked a bit more about the script than the directing at certain points (not to say the latter wasn’t great too) but out of everything I thought of as significant, the amount of stuff you actually touched on was still overwhelming for a first time watch, much more than I had anticipated.
I’m kinda angry at myself for always finding series like this after they’ve just ended and always being late to the party but maybe someday…
I think the invasion forces calling Eva 01 "the purple unit" somewhat denotes that they’re just normal soldiers doing their job and don’t really have a deeper unterstanding of these events like the higher ups at Seele.
Not sure if someone commented this yet but I’m pretty sure the live action sequence of the people sitting in a theatre is from a screening of Death & Rebirth. Once again, one of the many scenes where Anno metaphorically or quite literally let’s his fans look into a mirror.
"[…] I’m going to be finding things and drawing connections between them and Eva and using this as a text that functions as a filter for the world" – Terrific remark, pretty much what I’ve been doing since I first saw this ~ 2.5 years ago.
March 20, 2019 @ 3:36 pm
The End of Evangelion is one of my favorite films. Itโs breathtakingly creative, thoughtful and human, beautifully drawn and directed, raw, uncomfortable, and affecting on a level Iโve rarely seen. Anno and all the staff clearly put so much of themselves into it. I love that it works at so many levels: as a narrative, thematically, and meta as Anno talking to us in the audience.
โWell, Iโm going to be thinking of this forever.โ Probably! Especially when you re-watch it and find so much packed in there that didnโt carry as much weight the first time you saw it.
Some thoughts:
* If you remember back in episode 21, they show a sub-surface scan of Antarctica which depicts the โwhite moonโ, where they found Adam in a state of suspended animation caused by the lance. The lance is a suppression system for god-like entities.
* When Fuyutsuki first sees the Geofront, he recognizes it as identical to the white moon, and Gendo confirms that it was built โby someone who was not usโ. In 15 and 24 we see that Lilith is deep inside the black moon, also dormant, because her soul was in Rei.
* So, we have what are clearly two spaceships, with giant alien beings inside them, each giving birth to different races of people. To me, that makes the โimpactsโ equivalent to terraforming events in which the earth is prepared for one type of life in the โprimordial soup of lifeโ stage. Since the two are incompatible, itโs the apocalypse for the other type.
* Of course, this is all largely irrelevant to (or just a vehicle for) the showโs larger themes, but as a sci-fi fan I like that it works on this level as well. Itโs an interesting take on the seeding theory of life.
* Kaworu was being used by SEELE, so they copied him for their own dummy plugs used in the mass produced Evas, much as Nerv did with Rei.
* In the kitchen scene with โthe Asuka inside Shinjiโs headโ, notice that she doesnโt defend herself when attacked. The real Asuka we’ve known wouldn’t have behaved that way.
* In the ending scene โI need youโ, theyโve both gained an understanding of the other when their minds were linked in instrumentality. A disturbed Shinji lashes out in frustration, but Asuka chooses to show affection and understanding to him that would have been entirely out of character before. Theyโve both grown, but I love that a little of the old Asuka comes back in assessing how she feels about the entire situation and her new vulnerability: โๆฐๆใกๆชใโ. Disgusting. But very human.
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for all the analysis. See you around on the Utena and Sangatsu reviews.
March 20, 2019 @ 3:37 pm
Thank you for pleasing this animation and for entertaining me with reviews.
March 20, 2019 @ 3:43 pm
Thanks, Tee! That was quite a journey, eh?
3:10:46 That’s most likely Shinji, at the edge of the gap we saw moments earlier.
March 20, 2019 @ 3:43 pm
NรO OOO CREIOOO
March 20, 2019 @ 3:44 pm
Now you know why people still talk so much about eva till this day, this movie as an ending is a masterpiece
March 20, 2019 @ 3:45 pm
Thank you for Reaction it from the TV series everyday, but the Reconstruction movie version "ๅบJo" "็ ดHa" "Q" and next is ongoing.
ใEvangelion: New Theatrical Editionใ
Director ๅบต้็งๆ๏ผAnno Hideaki๏ผ (general manager)
Production company is ใkhara, Inc.ใ, not ใGAINAX Co., Ltd.ใ.
ใShin Evangelion Theatrical Version: || EVANGELION: 3.0 + 1.0ใ will be released in theaters in 2020.
March 20, 2019 @ 3:45 pm
Well, you’ve just been introduced to the greatest insert song ever
March 20, 2019 @ 3:48 pm
During the explosion you can see misatoโs body going into pieces in one frame, sorry you missed it
March 20, 2019 @ 3:51 pm
Little Trivia about Gendo’s Final words to Ritsuko:
The current most reasonable Theory that I heard of is that he said the words "I truly .. need(ed) you". Allegedly the Movie itself gives us a hint to it in the scene where Maya Ibuki is looking at her laptop as the 3rd Impact occurs. As she is asking "Is this the answer that I was looking for?" she is embraced by a Akagi spectre/vision short before dissolving into lcl.
In that brief moment between turning into lcl and her appearing, she typed something on the Laptop of Ibuki.
You can stop the frame and see that she wrote "I need you". With japanese grammar beeing hard to transcribe into english and not lose meaning , the context of how you would say that message in japanese can be interpreted as both I need you or I needed you. Atleast If im remembering right.
With that Ibuki assumes the meta-role of the viewer and asking the question for us before getting an answer.
There is certainly more Trivia about those final unspoken words, a lot of which is in interviews with anno and the VA but I dont have those sources at hand.
It is a hot topic .. or was a hot topic. I guess it still is for everyone who experience this story for the first time.
March 20, 2019 @ 3:52 pm
Iโve just finished to see the reaction to 25+26 and this came out. This will be an awsome night!
March 20, 2019 @ 3:52 pm
Please do a whole series retrospective or something like that
Thanks , but only if you can , I just think it would be nice to hear your thoughts on the entirety of Evangelion
March 20, 2019 @ 3:53 pm
watch Gintama nxt!!!
March 20, 2019 @ 3:54 pm
My favourite part is when the movie asks (not just Shinji, context wise) but the audience "Does it feel good?" (over the image of the cinema crowd from Death & Rebirth) after rejecting the more positive TV ending (without the robot action) where Shinji is just part of Instrumentality while not piloting it, or being in EVA01, thus being god and having a choice in the matter.
But just in general you guys: Don’t just watch anime. You’ll get a lot more out of demanding stuff like this when you’re not only analyzing things with the offered text at hand, but with context and history of content which inspired it. For example the way Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey obviously inspired this movie aesthetically, the way classic Sci-Fi did thematically when it comes to unification of humanity, and the way the literary style of the Bildungsroman has a lot to do with Shinji’s arc, although he was of course a stand in for Anno, whenever it came to the point of "Are people only happy with me, when I pilot EVA?" or MAKING NGE. You can analyze the technobabble/pseudo-theological lore all you want, but in the end this is a movie about the relationship between a creator, his creation and its audience.
March 20, 2019 @ 3:56 pm
Fantastic reaction. About the Lance of Longinus, the lance is said to be a living entity. The only explanation I can think of for why the spear returned, is that EVA unit 1 summoned the spear when it was released from it’s restraints. The spear responded. Also, Seele is pronounced "she-leh"
Gendo says "anata ga suki" to Ritsuko right? The most formal and neutral way to say ‘I love you’ in Japanese would be :
็งใฏใใชใใๅฅฝใใงใใ/ Watashi ha anata ga suki desu.
The spear the pierces Lilith’s Forehead-Vagina is the tree of life containing Shinji and Unit 01.
March 20, 2019 @ 3:59 pm
https://i.imgur.com/KmPDbGW.png
March 20, 2019 @ 4:02 pm
้ๅธธใซ็่งฃใใใฎใ้ฃใใๆ ็ปใงใใโฆ
March 20, 2019 @ 4:02 pm
Nearly 4 hours? Hell ye, let’s do this!
March 20, 2019 @ 4:07 pm
There is something people always miss with this movie… Shinji did tried to get in the robot, but there was the bakelite that prevented him to reach it. So yeah… Shinji tried…
March 20, 2019 @ 4:07 pm
To clarify: Adam is not born from Lilith, that’s a faulty translation. Adam and Lilith are the same in that they are both seed of life. Lilith with the fruit of knowledge originated all life as we know it, and Adam with the fruit of life originated the angels.
I recommend doing a deep dive into the EvaGeeks wiki.
March 20, 2019 @ 4:09 pm
If you haven’t already check out NGE’s spiritual predecessor Gunbuster and its sequel Diebuster. Both are 6 episode OVAs by Ginax. Anno directed Gunbuster and Kazuya Tsurumaki did Diebuster. Tsurumaki was assistant director under Anno for NGE, directed the first half of EOE, and later went on to do FLCL.
March 20, 2019 @ 4:11 pm
there’s too many things to say regarding this anime/movie; so just a few things
– asuka’s bandages at the end is the same ones as rei’s at the beginning of the series
– in the 80-90s there’s this notion of man and woman are 1/2s of a complete being; which is why gendo is trying to merge adam and lilith
– 1/2 of this movie is Anno giving the audience the finger, for instance the jack off scene is practically Anno saying fans jack off to his characters
– misato has always used sex as comfort; at the end it’s the one thing she knows.
-the Magi is 3 parts of ritsuko’s mother; and it’s casper the woman part that rejects ritsuko’s proposal
-all the weapons eventually became fake lances, in lore the spear is a sacred relic because it has christ’s blood on it, and there’s alot of fakes sold tru out history
-the thing that forms is a form of the infinity logo
-the kabbalah tree of life formed and it’s doesn’t matter how it’s shown; the important part is which sphere/sephiroth unit 01 and shinji is situated
March 20, 2019 @ 4:12 pm
Fun Fact:The scene MP Evas are circling around Asuka is a reference to sinking of Langley aircraft carrier, and circling around the target was a main tactic for Japanese naval bombers.
"The Japanese bombers attacked releasing partial salvos. Since they were level bombing from medium altitude, Langley was able to alter helm when the bombs were released and evade the first and second bombing passes, but the bombers altered their tactics on the third pass and bracketed the directions Langley could turn. As a result, Langley took five hits from a mix of 250 and 60 kilograms (550 and 130 pounds) bombs"
The Soryu aircraft carries was too sunk by an airstrike. Asuka (as most of the Evangelion characters) are named after WW2 Warships, most of them were sunk.
Katrusragi – Aircraft carrier
Ayanami – Destroyer
Akagi – aircraft carrier
Lengly Soryu – Aircraft Carriers
Most of the Asuka vs Mass Production Eva fight was done by notorious animator Mitsuo Iso who draws his animation only using keyframes and drawing all of them by itself, which results in a very distinct style which you can see in this fight.
March 20, 2019 @ 4:13 pm
Some personal points of interest, I may add to this as I think about it.
-Shinji physically couldn’t activate Unit 01, the plug was covered in bakelite.
-Fuyutsuki isn’t the only one who seems to understand what Instrumentality is. It was most heavily hinted at by Kaworu but Ritsuko and Misato figure it out one way or another. No-one seemed particularly surprised by what was happening, almost as if they’ve seen it before.
-LCL looks cozy, personally I would choose Instrumentality.
-The scene where Kaworu talks to Shinji through Rei, instant chills. Seeing Shinji so at peace, with the music and everything, it’s like a dopamine hit.
-All the shots of reality during Instrumentality are metal as fuck.
-The final scene of this movie was so impactful to me, I’ve probably thought about it at least once a week for 6 years.
March 20, 2019 @ 4:13 pm
please watch Tatami Galaxy
March 20, 2019 @ 4:15 pm
the light in the flashbacck scene is stage lighting. The other items in that scene imply that the scene itself is kinda theatrical play. A meta scene setting like French New Wave. I’m not sure where Anno got that idea from.
March 20, 2019 @ 4:15 pm
I picked a good time to wake up, 4 hour vid oh boy! Very interested to see what you think.
March 20, 2019 @ 4:16 pm
Best reaction, and analysis I’ve ever seen for a first watch. Was everything I expected and so much more. The feelings this film can give you are otherworldly.
March 20, 2019 @ 4:19 pm
Are you going to make a separate review/analysis video?
March 20, 2019 @ 4:22 pm
I dont know if you have watched, but I really recommend you to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOsK5bB4Tys. It explains the setting in Eva well. I hope the translation is understandable enough. I think you are in right time now to watch the video.
I also recommend you to watch new eva movies, Jo, Ha, Q.
They are not just remakes of TV series at least for me. "Kaworu 01" ,which is written in entry plug of eva series in first episode of EoE, is one of the foreshadows of the new movies for example.
There are lots of connections between TV series and new movies.
I hope you find great explanation of the connection in English. There are lots of fucking amazing explanation videos in Japanese even on Youtube but yeah.
Anyway, there is nobody can understand everything of Eva, thats for sure because at least it is still going.
Like there are people saying even Anno dosent understand Eva himself as a joke.
However, the most important thing especially for Eva to enjoy it is our action to try to understand Eva by anything like searching on Internet or listening to commentary etc.
Thank you for your contents included lots of great reactions and analysis.
March 20, 2019 @ 4:24 pm
Oh yes
March 20, 2019 @ 4:24 pm
Uhh, before I watch this, I need to say. That thumbnail is awesome! Good work Teeaboo ๐
Looking forward to this ^^
March 20, 2019 @ 4:26 pm
Fucking Komm Susser Todd, i still feel like crying every time i hear that song because of how impactful and beatiful that scene was
Also can we take a minute to appreciate Miyamura’s scream when Asuka gets hit by the spear? Because it is really fucking chilling and beatiful
But talking about something more interesting:
– When we hear the voice in 02’s plug saying conflicting things like "I’ll not let you die" and "die with me" it is supposedly because Asuka’s mother’s soul is split in two. Basically she got absorbed by the Eva 02 during en experiment just like Yui, they managed to get her out but a part of her soul, with motherly instincts and all, remained trapped in the eva. That’s why she became batshit crazy and why Asuka was selected as a pilot BEFORE the mother died, then when she killed herself they apparently put in the eva the other part as well, because why not, so both personalities are there.
– The black moon is the geo front itself, a pefectly spherical cavity underground where they found Lilith. The white moon is the identical cavity at the pole where they found Adam.
– During the scene with the pendulum the guy tells how apparently NERV was trying to destroy the world initiating 3rd impact, so they had to attack. Basically SEELE tricked them into believing NERV was going to destroy the world and then they sent in the Eva Series and went "LOL JK it was us all along suckers!". The military was sent to stop 3rd impact but unknowingly helped SEELE initiate it instead, that’s why they said the mission was failed.
– Gendo had in mind a different version of instrumentality, it is not clear how he envisioned it exactly but it is clear he only cared about being with Yui and didn’t give a shit about the rest of the world. It is very possible he just wanted to merge with Yui into 01 and fuck off into space for eternity, possibly leaving the rest of humanity unchanged. If he actually meant to merge all of humanity to get with Yui he just had to follow SEELE’s plan instead of trying to fuck them over forcing them to attack.
– It is amazing how much of a clusterfuck of plans this whole 3rd impact ends up being, SEELE wants to initiate it using the Eva Series, Eva 01 and the Spear of Longinus. Yui willingly becomes the soul inside Eva 01 probably to mess with SEELE’s plans, knowing 01 will be a key piece in instrumentality. Gendo wants to get back with Yui and plans another "instrumentality" that involves Lilith, Adam, Rei and Eva 01 but doesn’t need the Eva Series and the Spear, so much that he purposedly throws it away on the moon to fuck with SEELE. Then at the last second Rei decides not to go along with Gendo’s plan, becomes basically a god and fucks up everyone’s plans giving full control to Shinji.
– I think the strange-looking kids playing in the sand with little Shinji are supposed to represent Rei and Asuka, and their mother Misato. Shinji, Rei and Asuka are in a sense rebuilding the world after Second Impact on the frontlines, fighting (rebuilding the sand pyramid, that starts half destroyed already) with Misato watching behind them. Then the three girls go away, just like by the end of the series Shinji ends up cutting ties with all of them for one reason or another, 3rd impact happens and Shinji’s first wish is for everyone to die, the world destroyed, the sand pyramid destroyed. Soon enough he realises that he fucked up real bad with that wish and tries to take it back by giving everyone the chance to get back, rebuilding the world once again on his own, rebuilding the pyramid. I’m not sure how believable this interpretation is because the scene happens BEFORE he even wishes for everyone to die and before instrumentality proper kicks in.
– I see the flashing of images at 1:11:20 in the reaction as Shinji getting shoved into Instrumentality, he experiencing EVERYTHING of EVERYONE in a few instants.
– About the last line, "how disgusting", apparently Anno asked Asuka’s VA, Miyamura: "Just imagine you are sleeping in your bed and a stranger sneaks into your room. He can rape you anytime, as you are asleep, but he doesn’t. Instead, he masturbates looking at you, when you wake up and know what he did to you. What do you think you would say?" and she responded "kimochi warui". I suppose even if Asuka didn’t really see him doing it she experienced it from his soul while they were both in Instrumentality.
God, there is so much i’d like to say about the series as a whole but i’ll be here all night if i do, and i already put up a massive wall of text so i’ll just stop here
March 20, 2019 @ 4:28 pm
You should go watch the preview from the director’s cut episode 24. It has some storyboards from when they were making End of Evangelion. Also here’s the English version of Cruel Angel’s Thesis I mentioned in an earlier post that has scenes from the entire series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJuexdl_c5s
Also, I think the 5 women in the thank you message are the voice actresses for Shinji, Asuka, Rei, Misato, and maybe Ritsuko. Pretty sure the thing that moves at 58:30 too is the child Shinji.
March 20, 2019 @ 4:28 pm
2:07:00 It’s a mistranslation. The line should be read as "Mankind was spawned from a being [akin to Adam] called Lilith", meaning that Lilith and Adam are both progenitor beings and related to one another. I recommend you read the ‘Classified Information’ for further insight into this: https://wiki.evageeks.org/Classified_Information_(Translation)
Just so you know, there’s a relatively long live action sequence starring Misato’s, Asuka’s and Rei’s VAs that was cut from the movie. It’s worth checking out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwBs3VsNfdY