I hate The End of Evangelion.
I hate The End of Evangelion.
This is a video I sat on the script of for a while. Given the subject matter, I don’t think I need to explain why.
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February 25, 2020 @ 7:09 pm
As a fellow fan of Neon Genesis Evangelion, I wholehearted agree with you on this movie. This movie just kills everything that made me love the anime.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:09 pm
I’m not sure if what I’m about to say fits with your interpretation of both endings, but here it goes anyway: A lot of what is wrong with both endings of Eva is Hideaki Anno’s depression, which as we all know bled hard into the writting of the show.
Here’s the thing, I always thought that both endings of Eva read like what a patient of depression THOUGHT overcoming depression was like. The whole "learn to love yourself before you expect to be loved by others" message always ringed hollow to me in this series, because the series neither proposes a clear way to achieve that, nor gives a glimpse of what doing that would look like.
And it would make sense, since Anno was still in the middle of his depression when he created both endings, and my guess is that he wouldn’t have figured out yet, if he ever truly did. Also, I can imagine that he heard that kind of advice from many of his friends and acquaintances before he started therapy (and maybe even after. Japan is not exactly a prime example of mental health treatment, specially in the 90s), but I’m just speculating at this point. But I’ve seen that kind of situation more times that I would have liked to, so it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if it was the case.
However, as I always like to say, to tell a patient of depression that they just need "to love themselves" in order to be cured, is like telling someone with a broken leg that what they need to do in order to be healed is to train to run a marathon.
And that’s what Evangelion essentially does in both endings.
And that’s why I never liked neither of them.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:14 pm
Personally, I really enjoyed the super downer ending. I dunno, maybe that’s just me. I really enjoyed how Irreversible ended to so maybe
February 25, 2020 @ 7:15 pm
I understand why you’re so frustrated. I watched this movie when I was only 14 years old. It took me another 4 years to finally understand the movie and its point.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:16 pm
I love your videos.
Can you make a video of eureka seven?
February 25, 2020 @ 7:16 pm
https://youtu.be/Vw3LFPMp4Pg
February 25, 2020 @ 7:16 pm
‘why does bugs bunny not die when shot by the guy hunting wabbits?!?!’ who said it’s a tragedy? it’s horror. i hated it the first time as well because I did not want it to be horror/satire. other than to critique society, the point of the movie is to be radical art and self-expression. objectively it succeeds there. if you think of it as a stream of consciousness, it’s hard to get mad. criticize the way he expressed depression and horror and the human condition. don’t compare it to romeo and juliet (or the flipping avengers! lololololololololol). nothing about a marvel movie is supposed to make you uncomfortable or think you’re on LSD). the fact that you’re asking why, why, why is the point. obviously this movie blew your mind a lot more than marvel. it animates human beings as they are: inappropriate, confused, in conflict, vulnerable, naked. why would you draw monsters but censor the things that make them scary? imagine if the old lady in the bath tub in The Shining were covered up
February 25, 2020 @ 7:17 pm
Well the end of evangelion was made because of the backlash of the original shows ending
February 25, 2020 @ 7:18 pm
End of EVA is exactly we wanted after the 25/26 clusterfuk. And we deserve and embrace all the misery in it. It’s not the ighty happy ending someone want. It’s the fuked up disaster what it is, and that’s why it make it’s undeniable place in history. Al your points are valid, but it’s still the best of it’s kind.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:18 pm
To the nudity it’s ok for japan, it’s free of soul in sybolism
But to what you like, or dislike is made by creator
May be the your reaction is the reaction of helthy man
February 25, 2020 @ 7:19 pm
The message I take away from Eva is “never be f***ing Shinji”. Do the best to get out of your comfort zone, never lose hope in self-improvement and try to help others as much as you can.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:20 pm
“I clearly understood it” goes onto show how much was not understood
February 25, 2020 @ 7:21 pm
This anime broke my mind when I was a teenager. It took years for me to approach anime series once again.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:22 pm
This vid sums up why I don’t like this show in general and why I can’t take it seriously been waiting for someone to make something like this
February 25, 2020 @ 7:22 pm
tldr; a series about depression ends in ‘hollow confusing nothingness’ and ‘negativity.’ ‘what good is it to love yourself when the world is drenched in blood and horrors?’ that is the conundrum of life, my friend. THE AUDIENCE SHOULD BE UPSET — IT’S BASICALLY A MOVIE ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST, BRO. You may understand the plot and the lore, but you do not understand the message of the film, and you say as much. Half the point of the movie is to kick you in the balls because that’s life. 10/10 would get kicked in the balls again. IT’S NOT A TRAGEDY — IT’S ART HORROR. Age-old rules of storytelling don’t apply to an acid trip. Drink a few beers and watch everything again lol. also, don’t watch the netflix versions. and chasing happiness is for homos. also you never even mentioned the soundtrack
February 25, 2020 @ 7:23 pm
Perhaps you comprehend, but it’s clear you don’t -understand-. There’s a difference. And well, maybe it’s probably better you don’t. I’ve struggled with depression and self-loathing and suicidal ideation and misery and despair my entire life. This movie is one of the few things I’ve seen that doesn’t sugarcoat a damned thing and doesn’t blow sunshine up my ass about hope and how it’s really not all that bad and it will get better. Let me tell you, when I’m in the dark parts of my mind I do NOT wanna hear that shit. It feels fake and dishonest and like a bunch of horseshit. This… this feels real. It’s how the deepest darkest part of my being sees the unbelievable harshness of true reality.
When I see this, both the shitscape that leads to it in the series and finally this terminal nightmare, I know it was made by someone as fucked up as I am. As so many of us are. It’s reality. It’s our darkest thoughts in our worst moments made manifest. I look at this and I see the reflection of the eyes a human being whose soul has suffered in many of the same ways mine has, crying out to express what he feels and trying to make some kind of damned sense of it and work through it instead of run from it. To take a full, hard, long and unblinking look at the dark side of himself and of humanity and our world and convey in art what he sees there. I understand it because I’ve been there. Others who have been there too feel the same way. It’s… validating, in a way. Sometimes the thing most needed is simply to be heard and understood. This movie is a reflection of a soul in agony. It resonates with us who have walked similar paths of bloody blazing hot broken glass. It makes us feel understood, and not alone, as we see so much of our worst feelings and fears and thoughts reflected. We see it and say softly to ourselves "yeah… that’s it exactly. Someone else gets it." And of course as we know, Anno gets it because he’s been there. He was there when he bore his heart and soul and tore open his chest and poured it all out onto celluloid.
And that’s why this is capital a Art, because it is the raw thoughts and feelings of a human soul, poured out into the world as a cry to be heard and understood. It -means- something, something deep and powerful because it’s real. It’s real because it’s an unfiltered expression from deep inside of a human being, painting with their own metaphorical sweat and blood and tears to get out what’s inside. An attempt to communicate from the deepest self. It’s raw, fragmented in places, incomplete in others, chaotic throughout, but it’s that way because it’s unhesitantly, unrelentingly honest and where it’s broken is in large part because that’s the best he could do to translate the overwhelming mass of his thoughts and feelings into a medium of artistic expression, like trying to compress a million terabite file onto a single hard drive, best you can get is a snapshot of the data with as few compression corruption artifacts as you can. And the other large reason it’s broken in many ways is because the artist himself was broken in many ways. A photo taken of a chaotic maelstrom reflected in a cracked and warped mirror onto film inside a damaged camera. There is so much truth there, the flaws are as revealing as the correctly recorded parts. All of it is part of the greater picture, which is like so much true art essentially a self-portrait even in the parts that weren’t intended to be. A self-portrait of the artist, but more importantly a self-portrait of humanity.
I guess that probably sounds like pretentious bullshit, and yeah it is similar to what a lot of fake psudeo-intellectuals say to sound all profound and discerning and shit. They usually say that shit about damned near everything, just mixing up the buzzwords they’ve heard used to describe actually moving and intense and profound art. Myself, I’m no art expert by any stretch of the imagination and never pretended to be. But I know when something connects and resonates with me and communicates something significantly deeper than the objective content itself. This is one of those pieces that hits very hard for me. I’m not trying to change your mind, I’m just trying to explain. And I suppose that’s important to me because what the work says about the creator’s experiential essence is something that is also true about my own.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:24 pm
Theres a reason why the ending was so dark. Everybody said to the creator that they didn’t want a happy ending like always. They said they wanted a dark and depressing ending. So that’s what the creator gave them. And by God, did he deliver.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:24 pm
Man I’m always here for more BlueDrakma content. You genuinely seem passionate about this, and if this is a sign of things to come I can only hope that we can see more. Thank you for this.
EDIT, FAILED A SPOT CHECK: I’m surprised I hadn’t seen more of your analysis videos, luckily I have content to binge now.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:26 pm
I should point out that Shinji and Asuka didn’t appear where they originally turned to goo. They returned from the ocean, they are ones is because they were the first to leave instrumentality (asuka’s personality is literally about individuality), but its safe to assume that everyone else will return via the ocean, not be returned to ships that they would be traveling ( hell, any crash would have already happend, it didn’t stop time bruh)
February 25, 2020 @ 7:27 pm
You don’t have to feel bad about your thoughts on these type of video. Its show that you see both the good and bad in thaw type of series. And I’m hoping to(not) see another one.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:30 pm
You’re more within your rights to say if you like something or if you don’t. There’s no need to feel as if you to need argue over every little, or for that matter big thing that disagrees with your side of the argument.
In this case a lot of people think End of Evangelion is a masterpiece.
And maybe not so much you but there’s a lot of people they feel because they feel a certain way that goes against the grain.
It’s like standing alone in the rain stating no it’s horrible I wanted to like it but I just can’t I don’t like it because…
It’s obvious that you put thought into this. That you gave the series a chance and explained your stance on this anime just fine. You stated more than enough things that allows us to know that you have at least a grasp on the story and what certain parts may or may not represent.
I on the other hand I’m a massive fan of end of Eva. One of the main reasons why is just because it was something so different.
Left me feeling strange at the end as if I had missed something. It was pretty much the first film that didn’t fall the direction that everybody including myself thought it was going to.
But I’ll tell you this as a fan of Evangelion you have to realize there’s a lot of people that dislike this anime. And love to make fun of the fans and how passionate they are. They do in ways of trying to project us as being elitist. Or idiots.
One last thing I will say I give two flying fucks about what somebody else thinks about something I liked or disliked. And vice a versa people give you shit because you dislike the film fuck them.
Bottom line I would rather have a good discussion about the show. Will I defend it sure. But will I argue to the point of insanity. Hell fucking no.
Because bottom line love it or hate it. It’s something that has to be experienced. And you will definitely come out of it with a point of view as to why or why you dislike it.
Anyways keep up the good work
February 25, 2020 @ 7:30 pm
I don’t understand why nudity is a problem in art. How does that detract? Also I agree the pedo vibes were uncomfortable, but I think that’s part of the point.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:31 pm
The end of Eva is SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE AUDIENCE FEEL HORRIBLE
February 25, 2020 @ 7:32 pm
Right hand is my religion.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:33 pm
Not a bad take
February 25, 2020 @ 7:36 pm
There were so many parts of this movie here that made me feel emotionally overwhelmed, especially given the fact I have had traumas of my own. What really frustrated me was how all the main characters seemed to have ended back at square one after all they went through.
Which is why in order to compensate, I made an ending of my own: https://m.fanfiction.net/s/13463157/1/This-is-not-The-End-A-Proper-Conclusion-for-Neon-Genesis-Evangelion
February 25, 2020 @ 7:37 pm
Asuka lifting her arm at the end is supposed to mirror her lifting her arm when the Eva series attacks her
February 25, 2020 @ 7:38 pm
"Don’t give me that Digi bro bullshit" My man!
February 25, 2020 @ 7:38 pm
I’m glad I watched this, even if I don’t have that much of a bond with Eva.
It felt like it really came from the heart.
As a positive person, I can relate to feeling like despair and hopelessness in stories feel bitter. At least without either the light of hope after dawn or substance to give it meaning.
I get that people can have a nihilistic mindset, but that is not my taste. If it’s done, at least do it with some thought.
Bittersweet endings are some of the best endings around. But downer endings can just leave a bad taste in your mouth.
Sure, that’s taste. But that’s how I feel.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:39 pm
when infinity war is used as a good reference oof
February 25, 2020 @ 7:40 pm
I appreciate that someone makes a video that’s a pure and reasonable take on how they feel about a film, especially about EVA. Great video and I can’t wait for more.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:42 pm
Yeah, the movie is a clusterfuck of symbolism and bad storytelling. I hate it.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:43 pm
The end of evangelion is…..yeah honestly I don’t have much to contribute. Although you are a brave soul for uploading this considering how ravenous fans are. It’s honestly refreshing to hear a different opinion on the movie. To that I only have this say:
Congratulations ?
February 25, 2020 @ 7:44 pm
Yeah, you took the ending way too literal, its actually a lot more positive
February 25, 2020 @ 7:45 pm
Rebuild of Eva is fun.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:46 pm
Unexpected video essay, but I believe this was an eloquent, well-thought, and passionate video.
Just go mirror some points, for understanding, the End of Evangelion’s flaws do not detract from the canonical works as a whole. However, the message and contrivances deeply affect delivery and understanding. The polarizing nature of a thought piece shouldn’t come from ambiguity, it should come from a place of understand both sides. For instance, TV vs Movie, the ending of the show is regarded as happy despite Instrumentality, the ending of the moving is depressing despite rejection of Instrumentality. The ambiguity of the show may lend itself towards a rebirth or at least an internal growth following the end. The movie however lacks such potential, and it lends itself to the notion that a crapsack world cannot be fixed.
That is my general understanding.
I hadn’t realized this video was nearly 14:30 minutes long and boy it went by fast. The little rant at the end hit like a freight train. And it was appreciated. It provided a new paradigm and a breath of fresh air to critical content.
Transitions between each points moved quite well. That may be attributed to superb delivery and attention to detail on your part. Additionally, I feel as if some points could stand more freely than others, but each point addressed added more to the essay.
If I’m being too critical, I apologize. I enjoy your content very much. The effort and passion required to write, record, edit, and post must be immense between the normal day to day of life. But it is appreciated.
In short, the video was excellent, I understood and acknowledge the points made, and the last part harmonized the video essay in a peculiar but enjoyable way.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:52 pm
Cool video
February 25, 2020 @ 7:52 pm
Not all art needs to have a message. Some things are just an expression of how the artist feels, evangelion tells a story but above all else it’s just a powerful expression of emotions that are hard to sum up in words
February 25, 2020 @ 7:56 pm
I’m sorry, but you completely misinterpreted countless elements in this movie. It can’t even be remotely classified as a tragedy. To say that there isn’t any hope by the end, is to flat out deny contradictory evidence acknowledged directly by the film. I think a rewatch (and exposing yourself to more perspectives) might benefit you in reevaluating your stance.
February 25, 2020 @ 7:57 pm
i heared the theory that the rebootmovies happen after end of eva because it is a failed timeline unlike the shows ending. i wonder if that means anything for 4.00 as it would be kinda shitty to just throw the story into the same end of all if that is really how the movie ended. i never actually watched the original series or the movie honestly
February 25, 2020 @ 7:58 pm
Ok boomer
February 25, 2020 @ 7:58 pm
Dude I get it.
I understand your perspective.
I honestly want to grab your hand and hold close, and then say softly to you
"It’s ok Evangelion is too deep for you."
February 25, 2020 @ 7:59 pm
OK, someone who loves the original ending, and just likes the End of Evangelion here.
I think the skipping of narrative steps is meant to have gaps, to be open to interpretation. And in a similar vane the take-away is also more pandering to applicability in my opinion, so your version is not the only possible take-away from End of Evangelion. I feel like Anno had crossed the line from a good narrative to something so artsy and philosophical and thought provoking that he wasn’t caring about the story anymore. He did it to a lesser degree in the TV Series ending too, but there he was forced to pick up and scramble the bare bones of the core narrative together to achieve some kind of closure (it actually manages tobe deeply meaningful to me and provide a powerful catharsis each time I watch it). The product of the longer and not-quite-standalone format on the other hand is left more free to meander and provide more hooks meant to be filled with interpretation by the viewer instead of just presenting a concept. In a way I see it as similar to the line-art sequence in the finial episode: The End of Evangelion takes away a slight degree of freedom by providing more set points in the process (providing an up and down), steering the interpretation more into a particular direction but making it easier to decide (providing an up and down) – not the best idea in my opinion but it provides more common ground [sic] to share when discussing the ending.
I really appreciate that you offer us your personal view in the video essay and the little rant about negativity in the end resonates with me. However I still feel with Evangelion the interpretation if this is solely negative is yours and as such only as valid as differing opinions by other people who also deeply thought about it.
February 25, 2020 @ 8:00 pm
This is my issue with the show in general. Shinji’s theme of self improvement, never gets explored. The series dwelves on it, thoughout the whole show. But we never see it put into action. The side characters aren’t very interesting either, besides Asuka. The lore is terribly conveyed to the viewer. The fights don’t really have any personal stakes. I’ve given it a 6/10. Despite all this, Shinji is still a really well written character. Definitely one of the best at handling the themes of existentilism. It just doesn’t follow through and leaves things unresolved.
Other shows that does the theme of selfimprovement better imo: Welcome To The NHK, Mob Psycho 100, Holyland (manga), Suicide Island (manga). Highly recommend all of them!
February 25, 2020 @ 8:01 pm
The end of the movie isn’t grim at all, it’s rather hopeful.
February 25, 2020 @ 8:04 pm
"I’m sick of seeing everybody live in this world where hating things is the new norm, and nobody understands that liking things… is more fun than hating everything for no reason."
Dude, that comment alone earned a like from me.
It’s so true too: Hate just isn’t fun. I think too many people have been force fed this lie that some things just have to be hated.
February 25, 2020 @ 8:06 pm
Oh hey cool, this is open to watch on YouTube now! While I don’t personally have much to say about End of Evangelion since I watched it while sleep deprived like 4 years ago, this video of yours really was fun to watch. I remember enough about the movie to know the points you bring up and understand your issues with them.
February 25, 2020 @ 8:07 pm
I’ve never watched Evangelion sooooo……
I’m just here for you
February 25, 2020 @ 8:07 pm
End of Evangelion will always be one of my favorite films of all time, but I understand why not everyone will love it as much as I do or connect with it on the same level as I do. Hopefully some new fans of the series from Netflix will come to this video if they feel the same way as you do and not fall into the mob mentality that a lot of people do with this series.
February 25, 2020 @ 8:07 pm
I’m glad this video is a thing. Although I completely disagree it shows that not everyone will like general liked things